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97 EK hatch
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
- Posts : 873
Join date : 2011-09-21
Age : 37
Location : Buckeye, AZ - Phoenix Metro
- Post n°226
Re: 97 EK hatch
Yeah I am hopeful, I need both but one will do for now until next month when student loans come in, lol.
jlopez95- Jdm Tech Ops Member
- Posts : 225
Join date : 2012-03-20
Location : Hemet, Ca
- Post n°227
Re: 97 EK hatch
yup little by little itll come together
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°228
Re: 97 EK hatch
ok so first off I went out to get workin on the ignition and could not find my drill bits anywhere, so I go to the store to buy some more and find a nice set of extractors that are double sided with one side that cuts a whole into the bolt. So I buy those and they work great, so my total for tools and parts was about 20 bucks which is way better than the quotes I got of 40-75 to take the bolts off and it only took me about 2 min to do it, ridiculous! After getting it all back together I notice that the coupling to connect to the pinion is not fitting and is way too big. So after some research I find that the column I bought came from a 4DR EX model with power steering and I do not have power steering and of course the two have different coupling connecting the column to the pinion. So I have the ignition together and now have to wait and get a new coupling which is only $30 and now trying to sell the coupling that came with the new column which costs $80 at the dealer so If I sell that i will be getting a new coupling and have it all back together. Started off bad today then got good then got bad and now it's just meh, lol.
jlopez95- Jdm Tech Ops Member
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Join date : 2012-03-20
Location : Hemet, Ca
- Post n°229
Re: 97 EK hatch
yup did it for a cheaper price in less time and just getting the other one and getting rid of the one you have and its good
EclipsedSilver- Jdm Specialist
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Join date : 2011-09-24
Age : 36
Location : Springfield, MO
- Post n°230
Re: 97 EK hatch
This is why i normally do my own work. Not only do i gain experience, but my wallet thanks me too. It cost me $2,400 to get the motor put in my Eclipse. mainly because my wife and i needed to move and i tried to do a mod but was later talked out of. but as a whole, I'd rather do it myself.
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°231
Re: 97 EK hatch
Well now after putting everything back together the car won't start. First thing I checked was the wiring and everything is hooked up ok. Checked the battery and it's good, the lights work but the engine won't crank at all. So there is any issue that has to do with the ignition but I put it all back on the same way it came off. All the wires appear to in good condition I couldn't find any tears or rips in the wire housing. I hope my kids didn't go out there and mess with something, lol.
Addicted2Speed- Jdm Specialist
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Age : 31
Location : Oregon
- Post n°232
Re: 97 EK hatch
Ever get it to fire up again?
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°233
Re: 97 EK hatch
no I haven't gotten it to fire but I have been so upset with it that I haven't even touched in like a month. It has been sitting in my garage and every time I go out there I just look at it and turn away. Right now it is a bit overwhelming for me to handle and I don't really have a lot of patience when I don't know what is wrong with it. Plus it has been so hot lately that whenever I try to work on it I get drenched in sweat which tends to make me less patient with what I'm doing. I am at a loss and one day hopefully soon I will try to dive into it deeper but I don't know where to start. Would love to be able to afford to get it in the shop but there is no telling when that might ever happen.
Addicted2Speed- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°234
Re: 97 EK hatch
Damn. I hear you though. It's easy to get discouraged. Hopefully with the recent events down there at Blackworks you'll be able to get it taken care of a little sooner than anticipated.
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°235
Re: 97 EK hatch
I am hoping so. I have been trying to work on it today but not having a whole lot of luck finding the issue. I came to the question though, that if I can't even drive my car once I do fix what the problem is then what is the point in fixing it? I am still going to need a new engine to get it on the road legally. Of course driving without proper registration has never stopped me before, lol. So I might just wait until I can get a new engine put in and then have the electrical issues all fixed up at the same time.
Addicted2Speed- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°236
Re: 97 EK hatch
Well this is just what I would personally do if I was in your position.
K swap.
Then you'd know for sure there's no issue with emissions, and you can build it above and beyond anything the d15b could ever be. It's not a hard swap, there's tons of aftermarket love for k swapped EKs, and it'd just be completely badass..
But like I said, that's just what I would personally do.
K swap.
Then you'd know for sure there's no issue with emissions, and you can build it above and beyond anything the d15b could ever be. It's not a hard swap, there's tons of aftermarket love for k swapped EKs, and it'd just be completely badass..
But like I said, that's just what I would personally do.
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°237
Re: 97 EK hatch
Well I have actually wanted a K24 for some time now especially after driving my moms 2012 Si. The amount of power in that car is awesome and with the light weight of an EK it would be even better. So I have been looking at K swap for a long time but the price of them is ridiculous but hopefully I will be making some connections in the near future to help me find some good deals.
Addicted2Speed- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°238
Re: 97 EK hatch
They can be pretty pricey depending on what you're looking for. If you just get a base model k20 it'll only be around a grand. Which I don't know exactly what you'd consider expensive, but that's not toooo bad in my book.
Shops get theirs for considerably cheaper though, so like I said, get in good with em.
Shops get theirs for considerably cheaper though, so like I said, get in good with em.
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°239
Re: 97 EK hatch
If I got a K swap I would go for the K24 which is around 5-6K from what I have found.
Addicted2Speed- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°240
Re: 97 EK hatch
Why the k24? just out of curiosity.
'Most' of the USDM k24s only have 160 horses.
And if you're gonna go JDM, there's k20s that produce the same horsepower as the 24s. Just a matter of larger displacement. K24s can perform well supercharged, at least more so than a k20, so I guess if that was part of the plan it'd make sense. But personally the extra 4 liters wouldn't be worth the extra 4 grand to me, but again that's just my personal opinion.
'Most' of the USDM k24s only have 160 horses.
And if you're gonna go JDM, there's k20s that produce the same horsepower as the 24s. Just a matter of larger displacement. K24s can perform well supercharged, at least more so than a k20, so I guess if that was part of the plan it'd make sense. But personally the extra 4 liters wouldn't be worth the extra 4 grand to me, but again that's just my personal opinion.
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°241
Re: 97 EK hatch
I have driven the K24 in the new '12 civic Si it is pushing 201HP which is more than plenty for me and I have no experience with the K20 so I am just basing off what I have actually driven. One of the guys at BWR has a 97 hatch with the K24 swap and turbo but had some issues with the turbo so I am sure I can get some ideas from them on if the K24 will work for what I am wanting.
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°242
Re: 97 EK hatch
I gues I am mostly concerned with getting the K24Z7 from the new Si civic
K24Z7
Found in:
2012 Honda Civic Si (US)
Displacement: 2,354 cc (143.6 cu in)
Bore and Stroke: 87 mm x 99 mm (3.43 x 3.90 inches)
Compression: 11.0:1
Power: 201 HP @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 170 lbs·ft @ 4400 rpm
Redline: 7000 rpm
Fuel Cutoff: 7200 rpm
K24Z7
Found in:
2012 Honda Civic Si (US)
Displacement: 2,354 cc (143.6 cu in)
Bore and Stroke: 87 mm x 99 mm (3.43 x 3.90 inches)
Compression: 11.0:1
Power: 201 HP @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 170 lbs·ft @ 4400 rpm
Redline: 7000 rpm
Fuel Cutoff: 7200 rpm
jlopez95- Jdm Tech Ops Member
- Posts : 225
Join date : 2012-03-20
Location : Hemet, Ca
- Post n°243
Re: 97 EK hatch
i say of you want the k24 y not....imma try to turbo my d15
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°244
Re: 97 EK hatch
It would be awesome but man the price is just crazy on those things.
jlopez95- Jdm Tech Ops Member
- Posts : 225
Join date : 2012-03-20
Location : Hemet, Ca
- Post n°245
Re: 97 EK hatch
iv seen...i was looking into a k20 for my eg but i dont have bills to put out for one
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°246
Re: 97 EK hatch
Yeah we all want something we can't afford, right? lol
Addicted2Speed- Jdm Specialist
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Location : Oregon
- Post n°247
Re: 97 EK hatch
yeah the z7 was the exception, and yeah they're pretty spendy.
Would be pretty cool though, Sportcar motion does alot of k20 and k24 swaps, they'd probably have a good price on mounts and everything, usually everything they can source is priced pretty reasonably.
Would be pretty cool though, Sportcar motion does alot of k20 and k24 swaps, they'd probably have a good price on mounts and everything, usually everything they can source is priced pretty reasonably.
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°248
Re: 97 EK hatch
will have to look them up but I have a lot of local shops here that are good with stuff like that and should be able to get me a good deal on something.
EclipsedSilver- Jdm Specialist
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Age : 36
Location : Springfield, MO
- Post n°249
Re: 97 EK hatch
Huh, and i thought you were dead set on the D15. A K swap wouldn't be too bad, i'm sure you know it's a very common swap in Hondas. But compared to what your current engine is putting out, a K would make sense. It just really depends on if you want the rare JDM engine, or the much more capable K20 or 24.
Dminted- Jdm Specialist
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- Post n°250
Re: 97 EK hatch
Well the D15B is awesome but not overly rare. There are plenty of them but most people prefer not to go with the SOHC. I will definitely keep the engine for a later build but I would really love the K24 for now.
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