"New" car in 2013.

Alrighty, just a general topic here, but something i have been pondering. Next year, my wife and i are expecting a nice tax return and my $10,000 (minus taxes) reenlistment bonus. I'm thinking between the two checks from the US Government we'll get about 10-12 thousand. Last year, we got a 4500 dollar one, so after they take taxes out on my bonus, I'll probably see about $7,000 of that.

What i have been contemplating is importing a JDM ride. I found a Supra, non turbo and only a 5 speed in Canada for $6,000. You guys know i'm a sucker for Skylines, and would love to import an R33 sedan. The issue there being the import and modification fees to make it road legal in the US, as per NTHSA and DOT regulations. So, that is a bit daunting, especially if i go about it wrong. Which brings me to my third option:buying a classic Skyline from the 80's. I love the look of the 80's DR31 coupe. I'd like to get one with the inline 6, possible with turbo, not necessary though; and it'd have to be a two tone. I already know who to go through with import an legalization. JDM Legends, owned by Trey Cobb of COBB Tuning. I have already spoke with them, and think it would definitely be worth my money to go with it.

So that begs the question, what do you guys think? 1993 JDM Supra in Canada,



1996-1998 Nissan Skyline R33 sedan or coupe,



or an old school 1980's Nissan Skyline DR31 coupe or sedan?

The Supra is nice but the Skyline option is way better. The R33 would be ideal among your choices but I think the DR31 would be a lot easier to get a hold of legally. I wish I could be buying a new car soon, love my hatch but want more lol. I have been at a great debate over my next car purchase as well, can't decide between the EVO VIII/IX, S2000, or a 240SX/S14.

C'mon Dennis.. You know you want an s2000..
Capable of boosting over 600whp on a stock block? You'd smash on that evo.. And every single 240 you ever came across on the road.

Yeah I know the S2000 would dominate but I really like my cars for how they look. I know it's weird but I like cars based on the style and if I like the way they look before I ever worry about power and performance.

I hear you there Dennis. Hence why I've been so attracted to the Skyline sedans. Unfortunately, there weren't a whole lot of GTR sedans (i believe only the R33 offered one) but an RB26DETT swapped sedan would be a force to be reckoned with. Most people wouldn't expect a sedan to leave them behind. lol

And you're sayin a 240 is sexier than an s2k.

I say go for the sedan!!! Be so sick to roll to the grocery store in a 4 door r33.

Yeah, but the benifits of a two door is a harness bar and racing seats to keep the kids from messing the car, so I'm (almost) a little torn. Lol. But, I see that the R33 sedan has it's own panache. Sarah thinks we should go with it. Wither way, it will be my car. She's geting a V35 sedan in the near future. The bad thing is, those come with the ATTESSA ET-S. Unless by some miracle i could score a four door GT-R, I'll be lucky to get a GT-R engine and transmission with the ATTESSA. Wouldn't be a bad idea, but i do have to think about cost. I want an R33 bad enough to get a GTS-T over a GT-R. I can always upgrade it later.

I doubt the Mustang punks would expect me to be driving from the right side of the car. LOL

I'm not saying that the S14 is sexier than an S2K just saying that I like them both and would not mind having either or both lol. Of the three I posted up I would take the S2K first then the EVO and then the 240. I have a whole list of cars I would love to have these were just the more practical of the ones I want. Of course at the top of my "want" list is the R34 along with a F430 (not a spyder lol) and a porsche GT3 RS, but those are way out of my price range lol.

I'm saying the S14 is sexier than an S2k. lol. Never was a fan of them but i have seen some good looking ones. But i know without a doubt my Skyline would be the sexiest of all. A carbon fiber hood, MAYBE a NISMO 400R front bumper, definitely a set of Recaro's, BBS rims to start with, unless i can score a set of NISMO rims or the awesome TE37's, and i'd like to go with racing harnesses, but if i get the sedan, i can't run the harness bar. Well i could, but i want to be able to use the rear seat for more than just groceries. LOL

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Or this?



Or this?



An R31 would be easier to get over the R33. JDM LEgends imports and legalizes them in house and gives one price, plus updates on the build. BUT I'm a sucker for the look of the R33 sedan and coupe. I just don't know which to go with.

I like the R33 400R it looks so cool but a plain old R33 is cool too. I think that having either one would be awesome but the R31 would be a little bit more of a head turner cause no one would know what it is.

I'd love to have an R33. But with the car being non OBDII it might be an issue. I'm talking with a few guys on a Nissan/Infiniti Car Owners club site (NICO) for more info. I think they can be converted, but it's looking like the DR30 or R31 might be the way to go. only about 17-23 grand.

I'd like to get the DR30 with the rare FJ20ET, but I think it will raise costs. At least i can get an Rb series engine. Looking for maybe the RB20DE. Either way, the motor will get pulled at a later date for the awesome RB26DETT, RB28DETT, or RB30DETT. Not sure yet, but I've got time. nothing but time.

Bit of light reading over engines in the R31.

There were a variety of 2.0 L RB20 engines produced:

RB20E - single-cam (96 to 110 kW (130 to 145 ps) @ 5600 rpm, 167 to 181 N·m (17 to 18,5 kgf·m) @ 4400 rpm)
RB20ET - single-cam turbocharged (125 kW (170 PS) @ 6000 rpm, 206 N·m (21.0 kgf·m) @ 3200 rpm)
RB20DE - twin-cam (110 to 114 kW (150 to 155 PS) @ 6400 rpm, 181 to 186 N·m (18.5 to 19 kgf·m) @ 560012354
RB20DET - twin-cam turbocharged (158 kW (215 PS) @ 6400 264 N·m (27.0 kgf·m) @ 3200 rpm)
RB20P - single-cam (94 PS @5600 rpm and 142 N·m @2400 rpm)
RB20DET-R - twin-cam turbocharged (210 ps @6400 rpm and 245 N·m @4800 rpm
NEO RB20DE - twin-cam 155 PS, improved low end torque, reduced fuel consumption and emissions.

The first RB20E/ET/DE/DET engines were fitted to the HR31 Skyline. The early twin cam engines are generally referred to as 'Red Top' engines because they have red cam covers. The early twin cam engines featured the NICS (Nissan Induction Control System) injection system, while the later twin cam engines used ECCS (Electronically Controlled Combustion System). Later versions which used ECCS engine management, discarded the twelve tiny runners for six much larger ones (though they retained twelve ports on the head, so there was a splitter plate). The RB20E was also fitted to some Holden Commodores (the VL Commodore) sold in New Zealand, and also to the A31 Cefiro, C32 and C33 Laurel. The Z31 200ZR was fitted with an intercooled NICS type RB20DET. RB20DET Red top Camshaft duration 248°in, 240°ex lift: 7.8mm in, 7.8mm ex
RB20ET engine in an R31 Passage Wagon

Laurels, R32 Skyline and Cefiros used the second (1989–1993) series RB20E/DE/DET. This had an improved head design, and used the ECCS injection system. These later motors are known as 'Silver Top' engines.

RB20DE Camshaft duration 232° in, 240° ex lift: 7.3mm in, 7.8mm ex RB20DET Camshaft duration 240°in, 240°ex lift: 7.3mm in, 7.8mm ex

The RB20DET-R was used in the Nissan Skyline 2000GTS-R (HR31) and was limited to 800 units.

The RB20P is the autogas LPG (Liquefied petroleum gas) version of the RB20, but with 12 valves (OHC).

And the motor i want to put in, the awesome RB26DETT.

The RB26DETT engine is a 2.6L Inline-6 engine manufactured by Nissan, for use primarily in the 1989-2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R. The RB26DETT engine block is made from cast iron, and the cylinder head is made from aluminium. The cylinder head contains 24 valves (4 valves per cylinder), and uses a dual overhead camshaft setup. The intake of the RB26DETT varies from other RB-series motors in that it has six individual throttle bodies instead of a single throttle body. The engine also uses a parallel twin-turbo system. The turbo system is arranged so that the front turbo is powered by the front 3 cylinders, and the rear turbo is powered by the rear 3 cylinders. The RB26DETT uses a pair of T28-type ceramic turbochargers that are set by the wastegates to limit boost pressure to 10 psi, although the Skyline GT-R has a built in boost restrictor to keep boost under 14 psi.

The first 2.6 L RB26DETT featured twin-turbochargers and produced around 280 hp (206 kW) @ 6800 rpm and 260 lb·ft (353 Nm) @ 4400 rpm. The last series of the RB26DETT produced 280 PS (206 kW) @ 6800 rpm and 289 lb·ft (392 Nm) @ 4400 rpm. } The reason for this discrepancy is a gentlemen's agreement between Japanese automakers to limit the advertised horsepower of any vehicle to 280 PS (276HP). It is widely known for its strength and extreme power potential. It is not uncommon for 600 hp to be achieved without modification of the engine internals. With regular maintenance, many of these engines have been driven well beyond the 100,000 mile mark with a few heading toward 200,000 miles. With extreme modification, the RB26 motor is capable of power in excess of 1 megawatt (or over 1,340 hp).[1][2]

RB26DETT Camshaft duration 240°in, 236°ex lift: 8.58mm in, 8.28mm ex RB26DETT N1 Camshaft duration 240°in, 236°ex lift: 8.58mm in, 8.28mm ex

There is a common oiling problem with the pre-1992 R32 RB26 motors, as the surface where the crankshaft meets the oil pump was machined too small, eventually leading to oil pump failure at high rpm. This issue was resolved in later versions of the RB26. Aftermarket performance parts makers also make oil pump extension drives to rectify this problem.

Originally the R32 GT-R was planned to have a 2.4L RB24DETT, and compete in the 4000 cc class (in Group A rules, the displacement is multiplied by 1.7 if the engine is turbocharged). This was when Nismo was going through the process of designing the R32 GT-R to be a Group A race car. But when the engineers added the AWD system, it would make the car heavy and less competitive. Nismo made the decision to make the engine a 2.6L twin turbo, and compete in the 4500 cc class, resulting in the RB26DETT known today.[3]

The RB26DETT was used in the following cars:

Nissan Skyline GT-R BNR32
Nissan Skyline GT-R BCNR33
Nissan Skyline GT-R BNR34
Nissan Skyline GT-R 40th Anniversary AUTECH 4-door GTR(ENR33 GTS-4 Chassis used)
Nissan Stagea 260RS WGNC34改 (RS4 Chassis used)

How about these pretty things underneath an R31?

I like those wheels, very nice.

PW:JDM wants 1349.99 for them. God i need that car. lol

not bad for some rare wheels

VERY rare wheels. I'd almost snag them now and wait for the car. lol

Yeah I would man seems like a good deal.

One problem, i don't have that much in the bank. lol.

We never have what we want to spend do we? lol. So many things I would love to get but that stupid bank account won't let me lol.

Yeah totally. the bank needs to loosen the purse strings. lol

so the bolt pattern on the R31 is 4X114.3. The Carving Stark wheels are 4x100. Looks like a bit of a problem...

At least i can get a set of good looking JDm wheels like these Rays Volk Racing GR-N's. But, if at all possible, I'd like to stay away from universal lug pattern wheels...