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    Post by EclipsedSilver on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:34 pm

    Huh, i figured Autozone or rockauto.com would have something like that... Maybe i was thinking the wrong steering component... Ah well. At least the dealer doesn't want too much.
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    Post by Dminted on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:16 am

    yeah I just need some money now, it's only like $280 for the whole column but I have to get my ignition switch off of it first, will try to find out more about getting that off tomorrow.
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    Post by jlopez95 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:54 am

    it sucks when you find a stripped bolt on an important piece you need to fix
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    Post by Dminted on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:13 pm

    yes it does suck, at least I don't have to drive my car that helps a lot.
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    Post by jlopez95 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:48 pm

    yea it does..if it happened to me it would be a real hassle for my car is my Daily Driver
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    Post by Dminted on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:38 pm

    So I went down to Import Powerhouse today and found out a few bad things. First off I asked them about my ignition on the steering column and he says he has the tools and new bolts to put it back together so that will be a breeze to do. I also learned that there is no way of getting my car emission tested and without that there is no chance of getting registered. The state AZ will not emission test my vehicle as an OBDI since the vehicle was originally setup to be OBDII. So the car is going to be needed a new engine to get it back up to OBDII specs. With that needing to be done the car will be sitting in my garage for an unknown amount of time while I try to save any bit of money I can get a hold of to get a new engine for it. When the time comes and I have enough saved up then I will have to make the decision of getting a B16 or K20 or keep saving a little longer to just go with the RHD conversion. I had my mind made up to stay with my D15B as I have really grown to love the little SOHC but I am being forced to change my mind by the great state of AZ. But I will be keeping the D15B and it's lovely new yellow valve cover to put into another civic of the OBDI variety, maybe a nice EF sedan? So as this is exciting I have the least amount of patience when I have to wait for things and having the car sitting in the garage will drive me crazy!
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    Post by EclipsedSilver on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:59 pm

    That sucks man. You should just move outside of Phoenix so you don't have to emission test it. Or, like you said, use a different engine. Would a different head do the trick?
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    Post by Dminted on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:13 pm

    no the D series OBDI are not interchangeable with OBDII D series I asked the guy about that and they used different stuff when they switched over, unlike the B series which you can interchange with OBDI and OBDII.
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    Post by EclipsedSilver on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:24 pm

    ok i get it now. The D series wasn't made after the switch over right? Looks like a B16A might be the best choice. but isn't that DOHC?
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    Post by Dminted on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:45 pm

    Yes the D series was made after the switch to OBDII but they changed so much about them that you can't swap out parts to convert. And yes the B is DOHC I was just saying that B series OBDI can be converted to OBDII.
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    Post by EclipsedSilver on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:05 pm

    Ah i see the whole story now. Too bad the D series changed so much.
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    Post by Dminted on Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:14 pm

    So it looks like I will not be having any updates for some time due to the fact that my car is without a steering column and I just don't feel comfortable driving it without proper registration. It's just too risky especially out here in Phoenix AZ, the cops are all out there lookin for little jap cars like mine. So I am stuck waiting until I can afford to get a new engine for the Hatch, which with the way things go with me will be forever lol. This is hard for me not being able to drive it or even work on it at the time, I don't really wanna put a lot of money in it until I can at least get it back on the road legally. Even thinking about the idea of selling it just because of some other issues including the OBDII issue. As of right now the only major things I have found to make me wanna just give up on this car is the fact that I am pretty sure it has had a front end collision at one point since the front support bars are all slightly off and the bumper and fenders don't line up properly, also the rear under support were the LCA's are connected has been hit on one side which created a issue when installing the new ones, I had to hammer it back into shape as best I could and now have no chance of ever putting a lower tie bar on since it so messed up. I will post up a pic below to show you what I mean. Also the doors have to be replaced and some pretty good bodywork needs to be done, overall i dont mind the issues and would fix them in one way or another but it just seems very overwhelming once the issue of the engine not being able to be used is thrown into the mix. Does anyone know if the rear under connection issue can even be fixed? I look at it and I'm like wow there is no way that will ever be like it was new.

    This pic shows the passenger how it should look.
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    This pic shows the driver side and how it is all bent back like someone ran something over when the car was lowered.
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    This pic shows the driver side and far bent out it is, the sides are so bent that the front part rubs on the LCA.
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    Post by EclipsedSilver on Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:40 pm

    If i were you, for the sake of driving your car, go to a local salvage yard and get a motor out of an EK. As far as the LCA, no idea. I'd check with that shop you go to a lot. From what you described, it SOUNDS to me that it might have had some front end damage, which puts you in 2 scenarios: fix the car or replace it. I cannot and will not say which you should do, as this isn't my car and I don't know you situation nor tenacity. I will offer advice and opinions, but that's all bro. Hope that helps. lol
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    Post by Dminted on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:25 am

    I am at a complete loss and don't really even know what I want to do with it, lol. It seems as though every time I turn around something else is wrong with it and it is never just simple little things. I have gotten to the point were I don't even like working on it cause I just keep finding so many mistakes made by the previous owner. I can't believe they tried to sell me this thing for $5K lol. As far as getting an engine from a junkyard it's not really that easy since I don't have the tools to do it myself I would have to have it done at a shop which would end up costing a bit and wont have the funds for anything like that for quite some time. I love my car and have never wanted to get rid of it but I am just wondering if it is really worth all the headache I get from it, I mean it is just a car and I could and have found others at decent prices. I am at a loss.
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    Post by EclipsedSilver on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:18 pm

    In my opinion, Keep the hood and the engine, sell the car, and put the money towards another EK. Or (MUCH more strenuous) you could try fixing each problem. I know you wanted a JDM front clip, that right there might fix the alignment issues you have with body panels. How much has the car cost you fixing it? (sans the motor emissions issue)
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    Post by jlopez95 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:46 pm

    my opinion if it has those problems leave it alone until your able to get the front clip to fix the alignment issue
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    Post by EclipsedSilver on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:03 pm

    True, but he still has the issues under the car, AND needs an OBDII engine (that shouldn't be a problem. He can go to a salvage yard for an engine)
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    Post by jlopez95 on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:32 am

    true the salvage yard is good for the engine
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    Post by Dminted on Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:34 am

    yeah as afar the front end and body is concerned it is all able to be fixed fairly easy but with a hefty price tag that comes with it. Doing the front end conversion will be around 5K and body work with paint around 3-4K so that right there is like 9K which just seems like a crazy amount of money to just get the car looking and driving better. I don't mind spending that kind of money but I have soooo many other things I would rather spend that kind of money on. But even with those issues fixed I still have the under rear part that I have no idea on what to do with, gonna have to find some time to get down to the shop and see what they can recommend. So as it is I spent 3k for the car and have put about 3K in upgrades so far. That is around 6K already spent on this car which seems like a lot when it still isn't looking that much better and still doesn't run properly. At this point if try to sell I will be taking a huge loss and end up selling the car as basically a shell since it can't be registered in the state of AZ so someone would have to do a lot of work with it. My only other option is to just by another EK whenever I can in the next few years and then swap over the parts I wanna keep and just get rid of the rest however I can. It just sucks I have wanted an EK hatch ever since they first came out back with the 96 model and jumped at the chance when I ould but could only afford one that wasn't in very good condition. In TX where I lived when I bought it all the EK's are priced crazy high like 5-6k and I talked them down on this one from 5K to 2500 due to it's condition plus the travel money of 500 to go get the car which was pretty far. So I finally got one and I am thoroughly unhappy with it.
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    Post by EclipsedSilver on Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:46 pm

    I just found you a 96 EK on eBay. Current bid is $1700.
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    So, it shouldn't be too hard to get another hatch, all you have to do is search. lol
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    Post by Dminted on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:15 pm

    Oh I have searched but I can only buy locally since I can'r afford to go all the way to NJ to buy one. The car scene out here is crazy for Hondas and everyone has them so over priced it's ridiculous. Thanks for the find though man, I know I would be able to and already have found some but I just need to come with some funds. After some much debating I am considering buying an S14 240sx 95 or 96 model. Prices out here are about the same as the civics but they are extremely rare to find in good condition in AZ from what I have found out.
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    Post by EclipsedSilver on Tue May 01, 2012 8:00 pm

    A 240? Make it a Silvia and we'll talk. lol. That sounds like a good car, but a ton of people have modded them.
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    Post by jlopez95 on Wed May 02, 2012 12:20 pm

    s14 sounds good
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    Post by Dminted on Wed May 02, 2012 12:45 pm

    I like the way they look and wouldn't mind getting one, but i am still at the same issue of not having funds. Maybe by the time next tax season rolls around I might be able to make up my mind and either buy a car or get a new engine.
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    Post by jlopez95 on Wed May 02, 2012 2:13 pm

    Yea my cousin has one with a silvia front end and its clean.....the funds are always a problem...but you still got time to make up your mind

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